Monday, June 12, 2017



SW: Hi Bulent, how are you bro? Thanks for accepting our interview. It will be our pleasure to hear some stuff about the early days of Cenotaph. Please tell us about the creation of the band.

Bülent: Hey ! Thanks bro, appreciate the opportunity, my first interview in more than 15 years J

First I would like to clarify any confusion this may cause:I am no way associated with the current band Cenotaph. Their last album was great, I followed the other releases over the years as well but that’s about it for me, that’s not my band. So if you are interested in old Cenotaph just relax and enjoy the ride otherwise you can skip to the next page now! J

The old Cenotaph was active from 1994-2000 with original members Bulent, Cem, Batu and Coskun. We recorded two albums “Voluptuously Minced” (96) and “Puked Genital Purulency” (99) and I wrote most of the songs which may not be so common for a bass player..

Ok here we go, rejoice old Turkish (farts) scene veterans and for others please allow me to bore you to tears; this goes all the way back to 94... Angelskull guitarist Unsal from Antalya moved to Ankara to get some useless geophysics degree and he was trying to form a band to get rid of his painful boredom. Batu and myself responded to his advertisement which was placed in front of HayriPlak and that’s how we met for the first time. Batu’s voice was too extreme for him and his riffs were too thrashy for me so eventually it didn’t work out. Months later we bumped into each other at a local gig. Batu said he was working with Scalprum guitarist Orkun and they had been looking for a bass player and drummer. During our first rehearsal it became clear to me that this was a melodic doom/death band, I emphasized my interest in faster/ technical stuff and showed them  a couple of my songs. Orkun quickly lost interest and dropped out before we even became a full blown band with a drummer. At the time I had a friend - Umut- whose drum set had been sitting in my room for the past couple of years. We had been practicing together with a distortion pedal on the bass as a two piece and were annoying the neighbors quite a bit. Umut was doing the vocals too while he was playing the drums....good old Nocturnusstyle !! He became the first official drummer, the band name was changed to Cenotaph and Coskun took on the guitar duties. Most songs we composed with Umut found their way into Cenotaph as well. That’s how it all started basically...

Later on Bulent from Suicide took over the drum duties and Umut became the second vocalist. At this point we had two front men; Batu was doing the growls while Umut was responsible for the screams. We recorded the first demo Life Immortal (95) with this line up.

For the second demo “promo 96” we had Cem on drums who had played for Diabolic Yard and Witchtrap previously. Umut was no longer with the band. This line up also recorded the first two albums.

Both of these demos can be found on the “Re-puked Purulency” cd as bonus tracks….

One more cd with the demo & rehearsal tracks is available from Sevared Records. But I would go with the re-puked option because I had the master tapes to all those recordings and was not involved with the other release. Probably the tracks on that one got extracted from some old worn out tapes.

SW: I saw your band in a magazine called ‘Rock Kazanı’ which included news about your first live performance. That only picture which taken at concert was amazing. When I saw that, I wished that if was there. It should be in 1991 or 1992. Your music was surely so aggressive for Turkish scene of those days. What was the reaction of fans at that concert?

Bülent: Yes that picture is from 94 and was our first gig. It makes us look like real pros wrecking the stage hahahaJ…but there are of course two sides to the story...This was the very first line up I mentioned above and the band had been active only for a couple of months at the time of this gig. We had limited number of songs and I don’t think the performance was that great. However, the songs at the time reflected our capacity as musicians and they wereslower, may be a little melodic and more accessible too. All of these combined added to an acceptable performance and got a good reaction from the crowd which was about 1200 people!

The other bands on the bill were; Suicide, Scalprum and Slamdive. Also, Catacombed from Bursa was there to play last although their name was not on the poster.

SW: Cenotaph released a Picture Disc LP from Sevared Records. The release includes an early unknown recording of the band. What was the reaction from the fans for this release?

Bülent: We recorded the album “Puked Genital Purulency” two times. Second recording got released by Hammer Muzik on MC & CD formats in 99. The first one never saw the daylight as the mix and recording quality was not that good. The term “good” here is relative and highly questionable. So it took a good 18 years to realize that it was not that bad but actually uncomfortable and disturbing. As soon as the perception was fixed we had it released on cd and picture disc formats. The response was a mixed bag. Some people were very interested from the beginning and some were quite pissed off J ...the second “some” kept questioning the quality of this newly surfaced record and compared it to their beloved official “puked genital purulency” release...why a forgotten version of puked genital purulency, why not the original record itself ?...
Simple: for me this one is more brutal and level of ferocity is incomparable. I am a collector of raw/ harsh sounding records and fell in love with this one after hearing it for the first time in 15 years. And secondly I do not have the rights and original tapes, artwork, design files etc. for the official version of the album “puked genital purulency”, it all belongs to Hammer Music and if they want to release it on vinyl of course they are more than welcome...

SW: I think you have had multiple contacts for the LP release from beginning to end and you worked hard for this to happen. Tell us the about the process.

Bülent: The process was quite involved. From the beginning to end I had Sevared Records in mind. However, this label is more focused on cd releases and he didn’t have much experience with vinyl and on top all that I knew he was pretty uncomfortable with the artwork of the cd version of this release. So I had to be pretty strategic because never got a straight “yes” from him regarding the picture disc. I talked to multiple record labels and worked with two artists. Mike Hrubovcak and Jon Zig. Mike had already done the cd artwork so he just changed a couple of things and made it ready for a picture disc release. Jon provided me two types of artwork after getting into some heavy discussions on what I am looking for. One was a complete oil painting and the other one was a black & white drawing. 

The oil painting is extremely detailed and dark. Unless you put the flash light on it like I did here the details do not come out. So it could have become a recipe for disaster at the pressing stage. I decided to go with the black & white drawing because it was clear, not very complicated and was able to leave a memorable impression upon first look. So he colored that with Photoshop and after many many iterations on design details involving; colors, fonts, band member pictures and their exact locations we ended up with the final design you see down below on my turntable.

Mike’s design is below as well. Once I got these ready it was kind of slam dunk, I forwarded both to Sevared Recs and got the ok to move forward with Jon’s design.

There was one more problem to solve thoughL....

Because a vinyl especially a picture disc release is a pretty complicated process both design and sound quality wise, I wanted to be in charge of everything at every step of the process. But of course you cannot ask a label to release your stuff and tell them that you want to do everything yourself right?

Well, that’s exactly what happened here for this release fortunately J I talked to bunch of pressing plants, talked about options, got prices and some more. Eventually I ended up with Pirates Pressing. With the suggestion from label we decided to add a jacket and a poly bag. The biggest decision was on the 33 vs 45 rpm. As you may know the last track (most inner) on vinyl gets distorted depending on how close it gets to the spindle. In order to make sure that does not happen I had to work out the track order and their timings and did some research as well to figure out the best option.

On the sound: I had the original recording on a DAT tape. This was mixed and mastered in 97. Because I did not have the source tape with the guitars, vocal, drums etc. on separate channels, the only option was to master this again for the vinyl without changing things much. 

I sent the DAT tape to Ron Vento of Aurora Borealis. He runs a professional studio for all types of music and he is pretty good at what he is doing. So he extracted the ancient record and mastered it again. The sound level has gone up and we ended up with a richer fuller sound unlike the cd version of this release. When you hear it for the first time bass is upfront but after a couple of minutes you start hearing the guitars, layers of vocals and other details. Briefly, all the details become available to the dedicated listener after some time. I am quite satisfied with the sound. And the vinyl made it sound even better.

After taking care of all these little details, I submitted the newly mastered record to the pressing plant along with the jacket and vinyl design. My final task was to write a description of the release to be featured on Sevared web page… 

SW: I know you are not in the band anymore but you are still in the music and playing bass guitar. Do you play for other bands or do you have plan about playing in a band? And my other question attached to these; will you play for Cenotaph again in the future?

Bülent: I have been living in US for about 15 years now and had the opportunity to play with a couple of bands.Sacrocurse, Aversion to Life and Epic Death are some of them. But seems like my job and kids are almost always getting in the way. I have a couple of songs on my own that I practice from time to time. Probably that’s gonna be it for quite some time L On the Cenotaph frontit gets a little hairy JI tend to make a strong distinction between the old Cenotaph and new Cenotaph and perceive them as completely unrelated entities... sadly sharing the same name and logo... My Cenotaph was Batu, Cem, Coskun and myself as the main song in that regard Cenotaph is long gone and dead...Having said that; hats off to Batu who kept the flame burning for so many years and these two releases definitely benefited from that sustained existence J

SW: You are living in USA. Tell us about the local bands if you have contact with some of them. What are the main differences between Turkish scene and American scene?

Bülent: Over thelast 10-15 years Turkish scene has changed a lot. We have a lot of great bands releasing products through European and American labels. I think things would have been easier if they were here. There would be more networking opportunities at shows, festivals etc…even if your music is good another big chunk of the business is how you sell it..So in that regard definitely being closer to all these labels, zines, magazines, writers would make things easier/ faster and better if you know your way around.

SW: These are my questions bro. Do you have last words to add?

Bülent: Yep, sureJ ….I don’t want to come across asanarcissistic guy but to this day I still do believe that to some extend the uniqueness of puked genital purulency is impossible to capture. That is not because we were great musicians (actually we never had the proper training) but the album was mostly written on bass with minimum tremolo/ picking and dependent upon the philosophy of discontinuity of time and space. That is; the songs do not flow…each song is broken down to its individual unrelated riffs and there is discontinuity.  Cem is a great drummer and this type of structure let him compose his own songs on top of mine with the drums. Batu did the same on the first recording “re-puked purulency” with layers of vocals by completely eliminating the words…AaanyhowJ…If you want to have a copy of “Re-puked Purulency” picture disc it may still be available from Iron Bonehead (Germany) for those of you closer to Europe. If you are in the states Sevared Recs, Hells Headbangers and NWN should have it... 

Sunday, June 11, 2017



SW: Hails from İstanbul. I want to thank you very much for accepting our interview bro. Lets start. Tell me your inspirations for your music.

Wrath: Hails from Wrath! Thanks for your interview and your support to my band, Dodsferd. Dodsferd is a misanthropic band, that supports chaos and destruction. Human stupidity and their parasitic behaviour is one of the topics that my songs speak about. Now about the music, I am inspired by my own demons.

SW: Popular internet metal library Metal Archives introduces your lyrics themes with Misanthropy, Death, Negativity, Suicide words. Are you agree with them that these words introduces yoıur music? Do you have another themes to add?

Wrath: These are the most important!

SW: The vocal performance is not typical black metal style. Personally I like your voice because it is so remarkable. Is this an intentionally act to have an original sound for your music?

Wrath: I do whatever I want with my music, I don’t follow any kind of recipes. I never did what others expected me to do. Dodsferd is the diary of my life. At that period of my life I felt that I could express myself and perform these songs (The Parasitic Survival of the Human Race) better, by using this kind of vocals. And that’s what I did. That doesn’t mean that I will continue using these kind of vocals on future releases.

SW: You will have a live performance in İstanbul soon. Probably in June 2014. What do you excpect from the Turkish metal fans?

Wrath: To be the true followers of Dodsferd!

SW: I think that Greece Black Metal is more mystical than the Norwegian style. As you know this style born in Norway but surely there are many good bands which are playing Black Metal. I want you to compare Greece and Norway black metal styles.

Wrath: I wouldn’t like to compare the black metal styles from these two countries. It’s out of my concern.

SW: For the young musicians who doesn’t even has a demo, what are your advices for them to have an original creatings?

Wrath: To be true to themselves and not to follow any kind of trends in whatever they are going to do in their lives.

SW: These are my questions bro. It will be pelasure to hear if you have something more to add.

Wrath: I will see you in a couple of months and all the true followers of Dodsferd! 

Saturday, June 10, 2017



SW: Hey Matze! Thanks for expecting our interview. It is an honour for me to chat with you. Actually I have so many questions about the ancient glory days. Lets start if you are ready too. I have CD and LP versions of ‘A shedding of skin’ album. Your name is written as bass guitar player on the CD but not on the LP. Tell us how and when you become a part of Protector.

Matze: After the recording of Leviathans desire, Hansi has to quit his guitar player career because of lymphatic cancer. Michael Hasse decided that Olly should try to replace him and so the both started to arrange new songs. After finishing the first rehearsals, olly asked martin missy and me for help by writing new lyrics. That was the reason why I spent a lot of time in the rehearsalroom with Olly and Micha. For me it was a cool chance to be a smal part in the genesis of a new Protector Recording. In august 1991 I spent my time every weekend in the music-lab-studio of Harris Johns in Berlin. During that time Ede quit his bass-playing-part and so I became the new Protector-Member. The Tour was booked and the release-date was fixed. Before Ede quit the cover and the layout for the LP was finaly finished. In that tme the graphic-agencys exposed films for printing and to make corrections were too expensive and not as easy then today. 

SW: My copy of ‘A shedding of skin’ doesn’t have an innersleeve with lyrics and photos. Was it normally have an innersleeve or just a white paper cover as I have?

Matze: Sad but true. The layout for the LP-Version was finished before the lyrics were finally recorded. The band and the lable has no other chance as puplishing the vinyl-version without a lyric sheet. I was always disapointed about and so I created a lyric sheet on my own. In 1993 we had a guy who asked us to start a PROTECTOR-fanclub. We thought about give-aways and specials for fanclub members. Making sticker or poster wasn’t that cheap than today, but to make some photocopies of the lyric sheet was one of the planned goodies. With the Split-up in 1994 all these ideas died :-(

SW: ‘The Heritage’ is a final glory album for Protector and it was really amazing. I just can’t remember how many times I listened to that CD. In other hand, there were no original members on that album. Tell us the days that you decided to go on recording albums under the name Protector without original members. Did you talk to them about the situation before ‘The Heritage’ recording session?

Matze: After the canceled shedding-tour with Funeral Nation and some other crazy shows, Olly and myself decieded to stop going on with Michael. We tried a lot of things to get our friend back on the right path, but we lost this fight. Olly wont give up with Protector and decided to try some gigs with Marco. The record company gives us the permission and so we started to arrange the songs for “The Heritage”.

SW: Tell us about ‘The Heritage’ recording session. How many days did it took to record the album? Who wrote the lyrics? Who wrote the music and whose idea to use that amazing cover art painting?

Matze: We were 4 weeks in Gelsenskirchen in the T&T Studio. Our Producer was Tim Buktu. The responsibility for the Artwork was my part. The mainpart of the Lyrics are written by myself in cooperation with Olly. And also some help came from Martin Missy.

SW: Why did you suddenly split up after that successful album?

Matze: It wasn’t successful! It has got good reviews but it didn’t sold as much as “Leviathans”-EP or the “Shedding”-LP. After “The Heritage” was released, we organized some shows on our own all over Germany. We dreamed about a little tour in USA but without management and a professional in booking, it wasn’t that easy than today.

SW: Do you still connect with the old band members? Do you have connection with Marco and Oliver? Did you ever thought about going on as Protector after split up?

Matze: Not really. I moved from Wolfsburg to Braunschweig an than to Hamburg. I’m in this cool city now over 14 years. After the PROTECTOR split up I started a band called SQUARE WAVES (from 1994 to 1997). İn 1998 I joined HEADSHOT for 6 years but since I played my last show with HEADSHOT in 2004 I stopped playing bassguitar. That is the reason why I never thought about a reunion. A few weeks ago I visited Olly in his rehearsal-room with his new band. I think more than 10 years past since we met each other last time. This get-together is the result of the last PROTECTOR-show in wolfsburg and the interviews martin missy did for the protector-facebook-page.

SW: Do you have the LP version of ‘The Heritage’ which was released by the Italian record company ‘Night of the vinyl dead?’

Matze: Yes, and i’m disappointed about. The cover is just copied and scaled from the CD-booklet and the music is not from the original-24-track-tape. With a vinyl-release our dream of an AAA production had to become true. Martin and Marco were involved in the reissue from NOTVD but they didn’t know that Ive got high-quality dias from the Cover-Artwork.

SW: Tell us about the Istanbul concert. How was the fans? Did you like Istanbul? ....and a personal question; Do you have video or sound recordings from Istanbul concert?

Matze: It is my best Protector-memory! The fans and the atmosphere are unforgotten. İ`ll send you a piture of a collage which is by my side since 1992.

SW: Do you miss the days you played with Protector? If there was a reunion with the old members, would you want to be in that formation?

Matze: Sometimes it is nice to remember, but this chapter for me is over.

SW: Do you follow the activities of Martin Missy with new line up? If yes, then what do you think about the music they play?

Matze: Yes! I’m very excited to the release of “reanimated humunculus”. I think they can bring back the ancient feeling from 1986.

SW: These are my questions bro. Do you have some more to add?

Matze: I think now is the best time to sell my last 10 “The Heritage” CDs. If somebody is interesseted in, watch out on



SW: Yes! Finally your third album released. The band is growing up with getting more power in years. According to this, you are having more fans in time. What is the reaction to the band from world metal scene?

Cem: Reactions are so good from any part of the world. General decisions can be summarized as; sound is more mature, style is more and more Decimation’s own style, sound and production quality is very high, musicianship is attractive. We are happy from the reviews of different well known zines too.

SW: I see especially the Turkish fans are so excited about the album. Near future, Turkish metal fans were not so close to their own bands. There were barbaric compliments. What has changed in time and Turkish fans own Turkish bands?

Cem: Well I remember those years while we were doing great job with Cenotaph, Turkish metal fans did not interested in our albums. As an example, I remember some festivals we played, in which there was an European or American headliner band, people were staying out drinking beer with their girlfriends and waiting for the headliner. They generally did not prefer watching a local band live. Moreover they did not buy your album. Only thing they do related to your band was writing some bad reviews to internet forums and arguing with fans of your band. In such an interesting environment we focused on small group of local fans but more on those living in all around the world. We heard lots of good words from Europe, US, Far East, South America and etc. We began playing in festivals in various locations all around the world, lots our albums were sold. Then Turkish fans noticed that we have good local bands too. By the time not only Cenotaph but also other local bands began doing very good job too. Finally there is a small but a high quality extreme metal fan group currently.

SW: What are the plans for live performances in Türkiye and other countries?

Cem: We are organizing live performances especially in Europe nowadays. We are enjoying to play abroad since people watching and listening to you are more into Death metal. They support your effort. Most of them are modest and true metal heads. For the time being “Death Feast 2015” was confirmed.  We are trying to make a tour around Europe and getting in touch with bands and organizers. You will be informed via our facebook page ( We will also take local concerts into consideration but there are not any festival plan for the time being. If there will be a good opportunity we will surely want to play here in Turkiye.

SW: I want to hear your personal influences for your bands music. Which styles are you prefer to listen in heavy metal categories?

Cem: Personally I prefer listening high quality music. Since I am a musician playing for more than 25 years, I not only listen to the music but also how it is played as well. Jazz to classical music, brutal death to symphonic power metal it does not differ. But percentage of extreme metal is higher for sure. Technical brutal death metal is my favorite category. I am listening to older and newer bands like Suffocation, Morbid Angel, Nile, The Eternal, Necrophagist, Ulcerate, Hour of Penance, Nefas, Origin. My band members Emre and Erkin generally listen to every kind of brutal death metal. They are following new bands better than me J      

SW: When I heard that you have your third release, before getting that new release, I finally bought your first album and listened to it carefully. The reason what makes me to do that is to realize your rising up graphic. Now please tell me what my reaction means to you as a musician?

Cem: Well, Decimation has a demo named as “Helpless Souls” released before the first album “Entering the Celestial Ruins”. In both of the releases I was not in the band but I was following them closely. The band was playing Death Metal with dark mood. After I attended the band we released 2 albums. Second album “Anthems of An Empyreal Dominion” was a new step, we switched to more technical and faster path. Then in the third step that is our last album “Reign in Ungodly Creation” we balanced technicality with speed and mood. During this period there has been some progress in musicianship and we thought we succeeded in creating our original style belonging to Decimation. When we take a look at good reactions coming from various fans and reputable zines and authorities, we saw that we are in the right way.      

SW: We are agreeable that your new album is totally successful. Now I am asking this as a collector. Do we have chance to have your new and early releases on LP?

Cem: Thanks much for your compliments Cem. Your kind of old metal heads’ decisions are precious for us. Cover art work of “Reign in Ungodly Creation” is a famous Dan Seagrave work which definitely needs the album to be released as LP. We are talking about releasing it as LP but if this happens this will not be immediately. We are now concentrated on promotion of the album. But LP is one my top concerns about our new album for the very near future.  

SW: There is an ancient word ‘Support’ which is used by all metal scene in time. What do you think about this ‘Support’ situation? What does it mean to you? Does every underground constitution deserve that magical word ‘Support’?

Cem: I have experienced the false method of support in my country for years. You are supported if you are a friend of a gut releasing a zine, forum, web site, music shop and etc. This way of supporting demotivated numerous bands in Türkiye. Number of undeserving overrated bands released 1-2 demos and did not show any progress since there were no critics regarding lacking points. On the other hand ltos of underrated other band which deserve to be supported were ignored. We have a good proverb you know, “The real friend tells the bitter truth”. A musician definitely needs applauses and compliments but more of those an honest critic too. Supporting new bands with lacking musicianship/production and what so ever also required but by showing them the right way in order to develop themselves. On the other hand we have football team fans’ like metal fans here J Band is from Kadıköy, then fuck Ankara bands, or vice versa… People we met in festivals in Europe hardly understand this kind of an attitude. As band members, we support each and every deserving act whether it is from Turkey (Kadıköy, Bakırköy, Ankara, İzmir, Haymana, Çemişkezek and etc) or Indonesia.   

SW: I know that you are in the metal scene for a very long time Cem. Even you are a founding member in Cenotaph. Would you please tell us which days are the greatest times for you?

Cem: Yes, those were the good days we have lots of memories. We were working hard on our material and heavily concentrated on creating a high quality work. Since we were university students we had so much time to do these. You can see minimum 300 crazy metals heads who headbands, stagedives continuously in local concerts and more and more of that number in festivals. On the other hand, Cenotaph is one of the first extreme acts in our country so limited number of people were following and supporting us. Moreover Black Metal scene was powerful in those days. Just like Black Metal there was a powerful heavy power scene too. People and zines from both scenes did not support us and fight with us J. There were lots of poser fans in these scenes and most of these kind of attitudes were belonging to them. So we wrote a special fucks list including these faggots near to thanks list in out well known album “Puked Genital Purulency” There was a burst of anger at various internet forums, zines and etc. we were threatened lots of times by those corpse painted teens who have begun listening to metal only few months ago. We had lots of old friends from these scenes who did not took these posers seriously. Finally it was so cheerful for us to see them in the moshpit while we were playing by time J I was also playing with Suicide, a famous local Death Metal band too in those years. Suicide was playing old school death metal with catchy riffs holding hands of both Thrash and Death metal fans. So we played live to more than 1000 metal heads singing our song with our vocalist in lots of concerts which was a very lovely memory for us. Those were the very early times for people to understand the music of Cenotaph, they were watching the hands of our me, bass guitarist Bülent and guitarist Coşkun and trying to understand the growls of our vocalist Batu and looking at our faces surprisingly J. Greatest thing was, despite this kind of an inappropriate environment, we never lose motivation and quit working hard and gave up releasing new albums. As a last note, it was so nice to write and send flyers to thousands of distros, people all around the world.
SW: These are our questions brother. It will be a pleasure for us to hear your last words if there are some.

Cem: Well my friend, thanks for your support. We, as Decimation, hope to meet with all metal heads in our live shows and have fun together in the near future. We also thank everyone who bought our albums and merchandise and at top of them Steve from Comatose Music who have been giving more and more support at each new day. We are going on working hard to serve extreme metal scene.

Friday, June 9, 2017



SW: Hails from Istanbul. I want to thank you very much for excepting our interview bro. I must say that your album is one of my favorites of year 2014. Please tell us about your influences on music.

ANDY: Thanks! I'd say that a variety of Metal music, traditional Scottish Folk music and Post-Rock are my main musical influences for Saor. I also like to listen to classical, ambient, shoegaze and many other genres.

SW: What was the main reason that you changed the name of the band from Arsaidh to Saor? Is it a right strategy to do this after releasing a perfect album that may make fans confused?

ANDY: I had a few problems online and digitally with the name because of the accented "A" and I just grew to dislike it. Lots of bands have changed their name early on, so I don't really see a problem with it. It hasn't made that much difference really, the same people who liked the first album still follow my music under the name Saor.  

SW: Where do you live? I know you are from Scotland but the question is if you are living in a city or a natural places like a mountain house. Probably your life effects your music. Please tell us about the music creating sessions.

ANDY: I live in a small town near Glasgow at the moment. I am about a 20 minute drive away from the Highlands, so it's not all that bad. My family also have a home in the Isle of Skye, so I try and spend as much time as I can up there. The main inspiration for my music is the Scottish Highlands, I often go hillwalking, camping and trips up north as I get easily sick of the busy cities and towns.

SW: May you compare ‘Roots’ and ‘Aura’ for us?

ANDY: 'Roots' is definetly "darker" and more "black" metal sounding. 'Aura' is heavier, has more riffs, has more Scottish/Celtic folk and post-rock sections and I spent a lot more time writing and recording it compared to the first album.

SW: If I am wrong please correct me. Saor is a one man band. If yes, than will you have some session band members for live performences? I am totally sure that there are many people there who
will be pleased to see this music live on stage.

ANDY: Saor is currently a one man band but I wouldn't rule out adding new members in the future. I hope to arrange some live shows in the future and have a few friends who have offered to play
live for me.

SW: According to the last question, probably you are playing all the instruments right?

ANDY: I played all the instruments on 'Roots' but Austin Lunn (Panopticon, Seidr) played drums and Johan Becker played strings on 'Aura'.

SW: Tell me three bands which marked your soul whith their music.

ANDY: That's an extremely hard question! Sometimes I only like one album or one song from a band. I would say that Burzum - "Hvis lyset tar oss", Alcest - "Le Secret" and Windir - "Arntor" are the
three Metal albums that have marked my soul.

SW: Tell me your favorite writers and books.

ANDY: The Lord of the Rings trilogy and The Hobbit are my favourite books. Everything by Tolkien is magical! I am also a history addict, so I read a lot of different books by a lot of different writers.

SW: These are our questions bro. Thanks for the answers. Let us hear your last words.

ANDY: Thanks for the interview! 'Aura' will be released on 6th June via Northern Silence Productions. You can keep up to date with Saor at



SW: Hi bro. Thanks for accepting our interview. You have 3 albums in 15 years. Let us know some about your long trip in time. Tell us about the scene 1999 and 2014. What are the differences?

D: The main difference I think is exposure and social media. With the accessibility of music at the click of a button it has become very easy to find and hear music from different areas all over the world. You can easily discover bands and they can influence one another much easier. The downside of that is it is harder for bands to break through and make a few $ to support themselves and keep the bands going when so many people go to the shows but run home to download the music. Everyone wants a piece of the pie now and especially for death metal bands it is a constant struggle to not pack it in when you go out touring or play a few shows and come home practically in the hole. It is definitely a passion before any form of income at least for us. Also there has been an extreme change in the need to doctor music and fix it up in the studio to sound as tight and crisp as possible and stand out more than the next guy. A lot of the music you hear now has been so fixed up in the studio it is almost impossible to play tight live unless you are a band that tours and jams almost religiously and dedicates many many hours and days a week to it. It sounds great on cd but it is a shame to see more and more bands go that route. Much of it has lost its feel. As for our trip, it has not always been an easy one, with member changes and hurdles along the way at times it has taken much dedication to keep on going but we are still here.

SW: You have a brand new album named Condemned to darkness What should we accept from the album and what are the differences between Descend to dethrone and the new one. I see you have a new bass guitarist and a new vocalist. How does having a new line up effect to the new material?

D: The new album was  about 3 years in the making in various studios. With various member changes some riffs and songs had to be changed and scrapped to not step on any toes and new songs written to fill the void. As well we actually dealt with 3 different studios over a long period re recording and changing things. There has been 2 completely different vocalists and tracks recorded before this came out as well as multiple guitar tracks and 2 separate bassists and bass tracks. It wasnt easy but some things needed to be changed and some just never seemed how we wanted them. We are happy with the final product though. Member changes are not new to us and as we speak we are searching again for a vocalist and bassist and our bass  player Mike Chambers is now on second guitar since it is and was his primary instrument. Descend did quite well and is a well respected album and a great collaboration of the members on that album. It was that line ups best work IMO and us coming together as a unit at that time with a bit of input from everyone. Condemned is more of a collaboration between long time jamming partners Shawn and Ron. Most of the riffs were written by Ron on condemned and arranged mostly by the 2 before the albums line up was final. The lyrics were graciously written by a good friend and outside source Mark Howitt who was never in the band, they were then arranged and edited by Mark and Shawn and were originally sang and recorded by Mark before the current version. Most of Condemned was not a colab of the members on the album like Descend. Our 3 current members have however starting writing new material as a unit.

SW: Who is writing the riffs? I see there is only one guitar player now and I guess mostly the guitar players arrange the music.

D: As mentioned in the previous question Mike Chambers is now a permanent guitarist in the band. Unlike before when he joined the band and most of the songs were existing and he simply played them, he is now collaborating and writing new material with us. The next album should be more of a mix again between all 3 of us and possible new members. More like Descend was. We have been going back in time a little bit also on the new stuff and trying to hit a bit more on our old school roots and stick with the feel as apposed to speed. There will always be speed but I think Condemned had a lot of focus on it. It always seemed to be a case of blast here or :faster there kinda thing and I think the new stuff should result in a good mix of Descend and Condemned. Hopefully a good collaboration and perfect mix of heavy and speed. We shall see what the future brings!

SW: Which countries metal fans mostly contact you about your music? Who mostly know and like Deamons music?

D: Mainly Canada has been very supportive and the States but our label has been really good at getting it out there and social media also. Like most bands we receive support from all over.

SW: What kind of music do you prefer to collect in metal categories? In which version do you like to collect your music. CD, LP or Tape?

D: Shawn and Ron being a bit older are more set in the old school kinda death metal from the late 80s and early 90s although we do follow and listen to lots of newer stuff. Its what we grew up with and you cant take that away once its engrained in you. Mike is a bit younger and probably more up to date on many of the newer bands and immerging styles. It makes an interesting yet good mix of ideas and style when jamming. As for format I think like most people its cds these days but we still have some tapes lying around, at least as long as they will keep playing without the old tape decks eating them haha.

SW: Are you playing live out of Canada? What plans do you have for presenting the new album?

D: We have not played outside of Canada due to past members not having passports and other various reasons. We would like to and it is absolutely a  possibility, As for the new album we were getting ready to set up some touring dates for it in support and once again we suffered some set backs with member changes. As of right now we are more focussed on getting the band back into a full functioning unit able to play live and play tight. When that happens we will surely head out to support Condemned if not even another album by then. We miss the live shows immensely and its tough and discouraging at times when you jam week after week and turn down shows and cant get out there to do what you love. In the meantime we try to stay positive and keep on writing. We dont want to jump the gun and want to make sure any new members fit the mix and will be around for the long haul.

SW: Tell us about the new albums cover art. Who draw it and who gave the idea for the cover art? Is the artist listened to music and just draw it or you helped with the idea situation?

D: The artist was Riaj Gragoth from Luciferium War Graphics. We had seen some stuff he had done and gave him a bit of direction as well as the lyrics so he could get a bit of a vibe about what the album was about. The rest was mostly all him with the odd change here and there from us. He did a great job. We are pleased.

SW: Do you know metal bands from my country Turkey and my city İstanbul?

D: I have to be honest I dont. It does not seem to make its way to us very often. Although I am sure there is some great bands from your area, the U.S. and Canadian metal scene seems to dominate the media and what we hear here in Canada.

SW: Is there a plan to reprint the debut album Synopsis of sin. I ask this question because probably most of the new fans will try to collect your older material after listening the crushing new album Condemned to darkness. According to this question I also want to ask if you have plans to release the new album as LP for collectors.

D: As of right now we have no plans to release lps although it is not a never kind of situation. Synopsis we will probably never re-release . That album was recorded in an analog studio and at that time we ran out of money. The final production was never what we would of liked it to be and that is what we got with our budget at the time. It is what is is and we released it how it was. Because of the lack of funds we were not able to pay and obtain the master reels back then. As far as I know there is no surviving copies of those reels or any masters of any sort. There is also past members on that album that are credited with writing and have copyrights on it and at this point it would be a lot of hassle and trouble to try and remix, re-master and re-release it without the original reels and possible legal implications. It is unfortunate but thats where Synopsis lies. We would love to re-release it especially re-mixed but it just is not going to happen.

SW: These are my questions bro. You may add anything you want to. Hails and greetings from Istanbul.

D: We would like to thank you for the interview and opportunity. Keep it metal!